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October 26, 2020, 10:02 am UTC    
March 07, 2019 11:58AM
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"Have we gone mad? has anyone ever studied logic? A bear makes it to a cave 17,000 years ago and therefore Siberians had boats. POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC!!!!!!!!!!!!! first off people can not live outside in the same climatic conditions that a bear can tolerate. that's why the people in Churchill live in huts and the bears live at the dump. Also, maybe the bear just walked over the ice.... "
This was Hemmings' postition in 2001, so it is possible he has changed his position on the boating hypothesis since then, but the banner image for the Vero Beach blog does not reflect such a change and Andy Hemmings is a key player at that site.
[www.oviasc.org]

This runs completely counter to Michael Waters' opinion about coastal migration. Notice there is nothing coastal in that banner...no boats, no whales, no seals, and no clams. The banner depicts just exactly as the evidence shows to be unequivocally true of 14 Clovis sites, and zero coastal sites for claimed pre-Clovis sites of that age.

How does Waters rationalized this problem away?
[www.seeker.com]
"Michael Waters of Texas A&M University also favors the over water migration theory.
"The only logical way people could have come to Florida by 14,600 years ago is if their ancestors entered the Americas by boat along the Pacific Coast," Waters told Seeker. "They could have traveled by boat to central Mexico, crossed and come along the Gulf Coast. They could have entered the Americas via the Columbia River and then traveled inland to the Mississippi River and followed it down and entered the Gulf Coast, eventually making their way to Florida."

The irrational story here is why coastal migrators remained locked onto a coastal culture (completely hidden underwater) hugging the coast for thousands of miles (even where there wasn't any ice), then suddenly dumped that culture and headed inland...a 100% reversal of previous tactics.
Why central Mexico when the shortest distance crossing to the Gulf of Mexico would be Panama? What unequivocal evidence is there in early Panama? Three Clovis sites, no seals, no Monte Verde bolas, no nothing.
[www.researchgate.net]

And the evidence for a pre-Clovis Columbia River route to Florida? Just as much as for an earlier coastal route...zero.

So far the Vero Beach dig has trashed the pre-Clovis coastal hypothesis, next we will need to see a site report, not a conference chat, to find out the rest of the story at Vero Beach.
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Human remains and associated fossils from the Pleistocene of Florida.

Paul H. February 26, 2019 06:18PM

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Allan Shumaker February 26, 2019 07:34PM

Re: Human remains and associated fossils from the Pleistocene of Florida.

Lee Olsen March 07, 2019 11:58AM

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Paul H. March 07, 2019 08:20PM

Re: Human remains and associated fossils from the Pleistocene of Florida.

Lee Olsen March 08, 2019 10:03AM



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