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October 16, 2019, 5:21 am UTC    
July 22, 2019 09:03AM
Allan Shumaker Wrote:
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> Jason Colavito was criticizing Zena Halpern's
> book.

I'm aware of that.

> As far as the name "Onteora" my searches only show
> Onteora; village in the Catskills in Ulster
> County, New York. An Indian word meaning "hills of
> the sky" and a Boy Scout camp by that name."

Colavito says much the same:
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This pamphlet contained references to—wait for it—the word Onteora, which just happens to be a name associated with the Hudson Valley, held by a school district and a park downstream from Hunter Mountain. This is rather surprising since I can find no record of the word “Onteora” prior to its use as a steamboat name in the 1870s (probably from highly local Ulster County poet Henry Abbey’s poem of that name). It is the current spelling of what was claimed to be the local Native American name for the Catskills, meaning “hills of the sky.”
But it's a 19th century invention:
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In truth, however, the name “Onteora” is fake. Henry Rowe Schoolcraft invented it in 1844 (as “Ontiora”) to de-Dutch the Catskills. It didn’t take but was applied locally to give a faux-Native veneer to a summer resort community.
> In A Year We Remember de Sudeley used phonetic
> spellings for proper names. For example
> "Lan-ap-pee" referrs to the Lanape sometimes
> referred to as "Lenni Lanape" which today we
> recognize as the Delaware Tribe.
>
> With all the substitution ciphers and translations
> from Latin to modern languages it may just be an
> accident that the modern spelling of "Onteora"
> resulted.

See [books.google.co.uk], p. 85. The name doesn't appear before 1844.

What are the odds that a 12th century knight, historically documented only as travelling between Warwickshire and the Holy Land and Jordan, made an unrecorded journey to America and coincidentally came up with the name Onteora, a name exactly the same as the one invented some 750 years later by Schoolcraft - [en.wikipedia.org]?

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