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March 17, 2015 03:38AM
Byrd Wrote:
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> Geotio Wrote:
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> > Not a contemporary and why should we take
> the
> > word of historian but the source of the date
> is
> > Plutarch .
> >
> > "Alexander was born the sixth of
> Hecatombaeon,
> > which month the Macedonians call Lous,"
> >
> >
>
> Ancient sources are all over the map on this one,
> but I think Plutarch is one of the earliest.
> So the 6th day after the new moon in July-August:
>
>
> Aelian confirms the 6th date, but seems to suggest
> that the month is Thargelion (May-June), and this
> link says, many modern historians agree with a
> date of 10th-13th of June.
>

> The above link, though very astrolo-gy, actually
> makes a good for a different date using a number
> of ancient sources:
>
Quote:Most modern chronologists and historians
> (8) suggest that the date of Alexander's death
> should correspond either to the 10th or the 13th
> of June. So if by that day of 323 B.C.E. Alexander
> had lived 32 years and 8 months completed then he
> should have been born sometime between the 7th of
> September and the 9th of October 356 B.C.E., in a
> period that absolutely fits the time span we
> predetermined
>
> In addition, he says
Quote:The New Moon of August
> 356 B.C.E. fell on the 13th. So, under ideal
> conditions, the 6th of the Macedonian month Lóos
> of 356 BC should correspond to the 18th of August
> of that year (6 days ahead of the 13th of August,
> the first one being the 13th)
>
> He comes up with 24th of August 356 B.C.E, the 6th
> day after the new moon.
>
> July 12 doesn't look very plausible (wrong moon
> phase.) If you wanted to count the June new moon,
> I think this puts Alexander's birth about the
> first of July. (I may have miscounted. Feel free
> to correct it.)

The problem there is the astrologer is basing their thinking on another astrologer living 11 centuries after the death of Alexander and thus having to change the much earlier recorded mention of Hecatombaeon to Thargelion .I imagine the real problem is accommodating Leo who just misses out if Hecatomebaeon is used ,a bit embarrassing if the great warrior /leaderjust misses the most obvious astrological attribute .

FWIW.Plutarch provides corroboration for his suggested date .Alexander was born on the same day that the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus was burned down (Timaeus also records the two events happening on the same day ) Philip received news of Alexander’s birth shortly after the fall of Potidea, and that he learned on the same day of a victory won by Parmenio over the Illyrians and of his horse’s victory at the Olympics.The date of the fire can't be confirmed but the victories and the olympics do provide a clue "The Olympics were held over five days centered on the second full moon after the summer solstice The equestrian events were held on the second day, which was, at least nominally, the day before the full moon . In 356, this corresponds to c. 28 July. " Chris Bennet : Alexandria and the Moon .2013 .
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