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November 15, 2019, 8:17 pm UTC    
February 25, 2018 06:03PM
Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> The series of squares looks like corrals or pens
> to this Westerner. Having the animal figures in
> them just reinforces that thought. The dots could
> represent a type of shingled roof. What the other
> thing might be, I have no idea.
>
> The animal head is drawn with a sophistication
> that won't appear in GLS

GLS, isn't that the term one finds in preacher Bob's sermons, rather than in peer-reviewed anthro journals?

> art for at least another
> 20,000 years.

Thanks for pointing that out, because that particular piece of representational art wasn't dated...only the red straight lines, dots, and hand stencils.

>Combining that huge Neanderthal
> brain with the smaller Hss one

So you admit, just as I claimed, biology (they had already been sleeping together, as DNA shows, somewhere (but maybe not Iberia) long before those red marks on the wall turned up) and 'you don't know who you have by the tools you have" can't be left out of the equation and they just assumed it was Neanderthals who made those doodles.

But let's say the authors are right (and based on the bones in the area that do look like Neanderthal bones, as if someone knows what a 50/50 hybrid bones would look like) and they are correct. Let's even say their much older speculations (like 170kya art is correct also). That would mean Neanderthals never got passed the non-representational stage and but decided instead to go extinct.

> is needed to get
> the ability to move past stick figures into the
> art of places like Alta Mira.

We know AMH did and there is nothing in DNA that shows AMH acquired any thing from Neanderthals but Warts, allergies and large voids.

[www.huffingtonpost.com]
"Four years after scientists discovered that the two species' genomes differ by a fraction of a percent, geneticists said on Thursday they have an explanation: the cellular equivalent of "on"/"off" switches that determine whether DNA is activated or not."

Looks like the Hn art development switch was turned off.




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Scientists confirm that Neanderthals could paint.

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Khazar-khum February 27, 2018 03:59PM

Neanderthals couldn't paint representational art.

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Not so fast Hoffman et al.

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