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November 14, 2019, 3:47 am UTC    
September 14, 2018 12:25AM
Lee Olsen Wrote:
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> Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> > So?
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> A trillion flakes are missing, flakes don't rot
> away like skeletons if that lame excuse is used.
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> > All it proves is there was a founding
> > population somewhere around the 13KYA level.
> By
> > then Cerutti, Calico, and Valesequillo were
> long
> > gone taking every trace of their DNA with
> them.
>
> No one can refute a negative.
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> Then (if they existed at all) they had nothing to
> do with the populating of the Americas. No one
> cares who the one-day failures were. I've already
> referenced to the Robinson Crusoe possibility. One
> duck doesn't make a flock.

Vallesequillo is reliably dated at 250KYA and Cerutti a 130 that means hominids were here for at least a 120K. Hardly a one day failure.
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> "5. Are there human remains that are reliably
> dated older than 11,500 B.P.?" No.

So what another ad hoc definition.
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> "In the 1960s, for instance, famed archaeologist
> Louis Leakey received several National Geographic
> Society grants to fund excavations at Calico
> Hills, a site in California that had been rumored
> to contain stone tools at least a hundred thousand
> years old.
> Unfortunately for Leakey, the site’s particular
> geology produced stone flakes that looked a lot
> like tools—making it all but impossible to tell
> the difference between natural and human-made
> objects. Modern consensus is that the stone
> “tools” are naturally occurring.
> “Nobody’s gone back and seriously touched that
> site at all,” says Dillehay. “Leakey was burned,
> the people associated with the site were burned,
> so to speak. These things happen.”
> "The Calico-Coyote Lake area is my main research
> area. The surface archaeologial
> sites that are considered "Lake Manix" sites are
> prehistoric quarries with
> aborted bifaces. Before these sites were looted,
> aborted percussion bifaces
> dominated the assemblages. I have looked at every
> "mint" specimen from the
> subsurface excavations at Calico, and I do not
> consider any of the items
> to be man-made."
> Jeanne Day Binning, Ph.D.
> Senior Environmental Planner
> Branch Chief, Central California Cultural
> Resources Branch
> District 06 Heritage Resource Coordinator
> District 06 Environmental Office
> Fresno, CA
> “ And it was Louis’s attempt to fulfill this
> desire at Calico Hills in the Mojave Desert
> that was so catastrophic to his professional
> career and was largely responsible for the
> parting of our ways……I saw the finds, which
> consisted of fractured pieces of chert..”
>
> Leakey M.D. (1984:142): Disclosing the past.
> New York: Doubleday.
> " Since the
> discovery and definition of Clovis,
> researchers have searched for evidence
> of an even older occupation of
> the Americas, but most sites dating
> before Clovis investigated between
> 1960 and 1995 have
> not held up to scientific scrutiny
> (2, 39)."
> 2 and 39 are Haynes and Dixon.
>
> Ted Goebel, Michael R. Waters, Dennis H. O’Rourke
>
> The Late Pleistocene Dispersal of Modern Humans
> in the Americas
> Science 319, 1497 (2008)


Again so what? Nothing more than a series of ad hominems against Leakey and Calico. It's a shame that Mannix was stripped of all of its material, but that's the nature of the beast.
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Subject Author Posted

Clovis still first

Lee Olsen September 13, 2018 10:41PM

Re: Clovis still first

Rick Baudé September 13, 2018 10:49PM

Re: Clovis still first

Lee Olsen September 14, 2018 12:01AM

Re: Clovis still first

Rick Baudé September 14, 2018 12:25AM

Re: Clovis still first

Lee Olsen September 14, 2018 07:32AM

Re: Clovis still first

Rick Baudé September 14, 2018 09:57AM

Re: Clovis still first

Lee Olsen September 14, 2018 11:24AM

Re: Clovis was still last. No matter what Cloviscientology says.

Rick Baudé September 14, 2018 11:41AM

Re: Clovis was still last. No matter what Cloviscientology says.

Khazar-khum September 14, 2018 06:22PM

Re: Clovis was still last. No matter what Cloviscientology says.

Lee Olsen September 15, 2018 11:21AM

Re: Clovis was still last. No matter what Cloviscientology says.

Khazar-khum September 15, 2018 01:06PM

Re: Clovis was still first. No matter what Louis says

Lee Olsen September 15, 2018 01:13PM

Re: Clovis is still first, no matter what invisible skeletons say.

Lee Olsen September 15, 2018 09:40AM



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