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November 14, 2019, 3:59 pm UTC    
October 08, 2018 11:37AM
Lee Olsen Wrote:
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> Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> > In fact it's so short that it can be picked
> up by
> > an average hominid and shoved into moist
> ground
>
> Yep, it could, but since it is so short (with the
> small part in the ground and the top heavy part
> above ground), what kept it upright during the
> rest of the sediment burial process? That tusk tip
> is so small a strong wind would have blown it over
> in moist ground.

Like I said it was shoved in the ground all at once, no sediment burial process needed. It didn't get knocked over once in the +100KY
>
> > which is just what happened.
>
> A data-free, test free assertion. Do you have a
> video from 130kya with the evidence?

Another stupid argument.

Just exactly
> how moist is moist? There is absolutely no way to
> test the speculated claims.

Sure there is I just made the test using a similar shaped artifact that I have. It rained briefly here softening the normal cement like ground to the point where I could easily shove it in the ground without any difficulty at all. That's how science works Lee.

That gives me an equal
> right to speculate data-free also, or is this a
> censorship game and only you get to make the
> speculations?

Yeah right.
>
> > Nothing anomalous
> > about it at all.
>
> Then try eating or making tools out of the broken
> scatter of teeth. That's what the authors claimed
> the invisible hominins were there for...marrow and
> tool products.

Again they were speculating on possibilities. Happens all the time in science, though it goes by that fancy greek word 'Hypothesis'. Anyhow the next test is to see if I can make tools or not from bones. In this case it will be cow bones from Petsmart.

This is in spite of the fact the
> area is loaded with choice tool stone.

NO it isn't. Choice material is jasper, chert, flint, obsidian, sometime granite and basalt. None of that around here. Lots of shale and sand. I live in the area, I've tried to make tools out of the crap around here it can't be done. It's garbage it fractures into nothing. I couldn't cut a piece of paper with it, and I tried, much less a Mastodon carcass. Good for making hammerstones and anvils, which they found at Cerutti.
>
> Where is your paper countering Ruth Gruhn in
> PaleoAmerica?

Where is yours? Why should I counter it? I agree with it, the bones were broken at the time. Team Cerutti also refuted the construction equipment argument in their own paper. That problem has been solved. The bones were broken in situ 100+KYA.
>
> > Just look at the picture here.
>
> Just look at all the no hominin bones in 3 million
> square miles around Cerutti.

You've examined all 3 million square miles? You haven't? Oh, more fantasy's.
>
>
>


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