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November 15, 2019, 5:54 pm UTC    
October 26, 2018 03:44PM
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Everyone please clean your monitors so you can see what's missing from above photo.
That's right...bones. Where are they at the Debbie Friedkin site?

For those who don't have a cleaning cloth handy, my monitor shows a paradigm changing Folsom point stuck between the ribs of an extinct buffalo and left in situ.

Hypocrisy 101?
"In summary, we must not lower the bar for evaluating
pre-Clovis sites. Any potential pre-Clovis site must
meet the scientific criteria by which Folsom and Clovis
were judged (Waters 2000)."
Michael R. Waters
Criteria for Confirming Human Antiquity in the New
World
Scientific American Discovering Archaeology
Jan/Feb 2000

Yep, but even that point wasn't enough to convince everyone. In the next 10 years or so more associations were found at sites where points were unequivocally associated with extinct animals. So far about a dozen Clovis sites alone have been found and numerous Folsom sites.

High standards are required for everyone else but Waters? Like really, OSL dating???
IOW, to meet this criteria "Any potential pre-Clovis site must meet the scientific criteria by which Folsom and Clovis were judged (Waters 2000)." They will need at a minimum, two more sites to make it unequivocal. But even then: [genomebiology.biomedcentral.com] Clovis DNA was in the Americas first regardless of point styles.

"Michael Waters, distinguished professor of anthropology and director of the Center for the Study of the First Americans at Texas A&M,..."
IMO, they need to start looking for a replacement.

Look what he demanded of Jenkins: "Mammoth Trumpet 2011 Vol 26 (1) page 11:
Waters: "But before we can pass final judgement on the site, we need a good site report Jenkins agrees...." Did Waters have a site report for his Manis Science article? Nope, personal opinion all the way "ex situ" instead of evidence. The Folsom point referenced above is IN SITU, big difference between that and imagination which Waters seems to think is science at Manis.

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Here is another screw up by Waters (the first one has already been snipped out above with no comment on the actual evidence, just a diversion so far):

"Waters et al. 2011c; Runnings, unpub. thesis 1981, cited in
Waters et al. 2011c), which have not been confirmed
using more recently advanced analytical standards
(e.g., Dominguez-Rodrigo et al. 2010)."

The Millennium before Clovis
Gary Haynes
PaleoAmerica 2015 VOL. 1 NO. 2

"Do you have any data/references to back up that claim or did they disappear also? I've provided names and references."

No answer.

Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> Just decided to snip the whole thing.

No evidence to refute the evidence, just divert the goal posts and snip away?

Re: Genetic history at dawn of agriculture
Posted by: Tommi Huhtamaki
Date: August 10, 2016 08:20AM
"To put oneself in the position from which one can critisize everything, but not back anything up with something concrete is just a waste of everyones time."



Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> When I provide evidence it gets 'snipped',ignored,
> dismissed, and I get silly quotes like, this YES
> IT'S A WASTE OF MY TIME.

IOW, still no answer.
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