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August 06, 2007 09:23AM
Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> I know about the composite statues; the use of reg
> granite solely for the heads I did not know. The
> seated yellow statue of Akhenaten, though, must
> have either been 1, painted or 2, chosen for its
> yellow color & the resemblance to gold or the
> sun.

FWIW, there's no indication of paint at all on the yellow statue of Akhenaten, as I recall. The statue, Louvre 831, is made of yellow steatite, and was, according to Aldred, part of a dyad (as a queen's arm is still around the king's waist)(Aldred 1973: 49). As you note, the choice of stone was probably for its solar-like qualities.

> > Yet, this prince chose that this material be
> used for a statue of himself to be rendered, such
> that he appears to "emerge" from the stone.
> There's probably a definite message Khaemwase wanted
> to be read into this statue, and considering he
> could
> > have chosen any stone, surely its choice is
> > significant.
>
> Did he pick it, or did the sculptor? Usually the
> sculptor picks the stone, looking for one he
> considers 'alive'.

To me, it would seem that the choice of stone is equally up to the subject who is paying the sculptor as well. I mean, the owner MUST pay for the stone as the material, and services of the sculptor, for his craft performed upon it.

I can't think that a royal prince would normally choose a stone full of pebbly stone veins within (or especially a sculptor, as carving on this stone was nigh impossible; you should see what problems the sculptor had on this one, for example), unless the owner of the statue (i.e. Khaemawase) had something to say.

As to royal interest in stone: Do you not recall the story of Amenemhet I who, as vizier, recorded that he went with an army of 10,000 (some sources say 1,000) men into the Wadi Hammamat to seek and retrieve a fine set of stone suitable for the lid of the king's (Mentuhotep IV) sarcophagus? The text says that they were led to the block by a pregnant gazelle which, having dropped its young on to the stone to mark it, was immediately sacrificed on the block, as the vizier and his troops saw it as an omen that the stone was the "right" stone for the king's use.

So, yes, I think that the stone was of interest to the subject, as well as the sculptor. Amarna reliefs in nobles' tombs show the sculpting of statues within the royal palace itself (de Garies Davies 1905: 13-15; Plate XVIII (tomb of Huya)), which seems to imply that Akhenaten, at the very least, was very much interested in the stone chosen for his royal statuary of his family.

Reference:

Aldred, C. 1973. Akhenaten and Nefertiti. New York: Brooklyn Museum/Viking Press.

de Garies Davies, N. 1905. The Rock Tombs of El Amarna, Part III: The Tombs of Huya and Ahmes. Archaeological Survey of Egypt. F. L. Griffith. London: Egypt Exploration Fund.

HTH.

Katherine Griffis-Greenberg

Doctoral Candidate
Oriental Institute
Doctoral Programme in Oriental Studies [Egyptology]
Oxford University
Oxford, United Kingdom

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