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December 21, 2013 07:08AM
For ease of reference, I've gone through the thread and pulled out some of the more important links - thanks to all who contributed them.

(The list doesn't include links to the latest Bauval-Hawass development).


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Das Cheops Projekt: YouTube, 2:12 mts.

Wiki on Dominique Görlitz

Wiki on Stefan Erdmann

Robert Temple (2010) Pyramid dating techniques ( optical thermoluminescence)

Stefan Erdmann on Jan van Helsing

Jan van Helsing on Giza

Jan van Helsing and Stefan Erdmann - Die Cheops Lüge (The Cheops Lie)

Stefan Erdmann - works

Wiki on Jan van Helsing/Jan Udo Holey

Stefan Erdmann on the Great Pyramid

Stefan Erdmann on AE

Die Jahrtausendlüge (The Millennium Lie) PDF (German) (see in particular p. 152 and explicitly on the question, „War Wasser in der Großen Pyramide?")

Ancient Egyptian Art: The Relationships Among Binders, Pigments and Surfaces - Lisa Jay and Nessi Domizlaff

Conference: Did Columbus come 15,000 years too late? (12 10 13); and 4-page PDF

Thumbnail of Khufu cartouche from the Erdmann/Görlitz video

Abora - Das Cheops Projekt

More from Abora

Martin Stower on puzzling duplication of photography of Khufu cartouche

Dresden Transport Museum exhibitions

Wiki on Institut Fresenius

Dr. Bernd Mehlich

Preview: Das Cheops Projekt
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They seem now to be claiming that the pigment is not iron oxide, or does not match the iron oxide used by the ancient Egyptians (or something like that) (M. Stower)

ancient Egyptian red pigment (Lee, Quirke)

Vyse "Operations" I: 258-259.

Moghrah, p 1393 - Ulfáz Udwiyeh, Or the Materia Medica.

Facebook - Gorlitz

Cross reference to a previous thread re Grinsell and Goyon;

Cross reference to a post in that thread with relevant links.

Cross reference to a post on numerals found in the GP

And cross reference to another related thread

Selket's blog

Facebook - Houdin (Vicky Metafora's photos)

Spiegel Online 21 11 13 (image of samples)

Aufgrund der geringen Größe der Proben von maximal vier mal zwei Millimetern sei auch nicht genügend Kohlenstoff vorhanden, um ihr Alter mit der Radiokarbonmethode zu bestimmen. (Die Welt, 21 11 13) (Google transl: Due to the small size of the samples - a minimum size of 4 x 2 mm would be required - there is not enough carbon present to allow them to be radiocarbon dated.

(Online Focus, 21 11 13) <<Die Proben seien nicht mehr als „ein paar Krümel in einer Tüte“. Die mineralogische Untersuchung der „kleinen Splitterchen“ sei noch nicht abgeschlossen. Aufgrund der geringen Größe der Proben von maximal vier mal zwei Millimetern sei auch nicht genügend Kohlenstoff vorhanden, um ihr Alter mit der Radiokarbonmethode zu bestimmen. >> Google transl.:
Quote

The samples were no more than "a few crumbs in a bag". The mineralogical study of the "small splinter" was not yet complete. Due to the small size of the samples - a minimum size of 4 x 2 mm would be required - there is not enough carbon present to allow them to be radiocarbon dated


(Tagesschau.de, 22 11 13) <<Fest steht: Die Deutschen waren keine Entsandten einer Universität, sie forschen als Hobby-Ägyptologen auf eigene Faust.>> Google transl.:
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This reveals that the Germans were not employed by a university. They were carrying out independent research of their own.


Khufu pyramid thieves to be referred to prosecutor general: Min. of Antiquities (23 11 13)

Penalties imposed on two amateur German archaeologists (Ahram Online, 25 11 13)

Egyptian archaoelogists refute claims by German amateurs on Great Pyramid (Ahram Online 27 11 13)

Link to post discussing stories 25 11 13 and 27 11 13 by Nevine El-Aref

German archaeologists will not be penalized for stealing King Cheops artifacts (27 11 13)

Playing with Egypt’s heritage (25 11 13)

Krümel-Klau von Ägypten immer mysteriöser!

Ägypter jagen diesen Archäologen

Dresdner Institut stoppt Cheops-Untersuchungen

Ägyptische Empörung über Coup in der Pyramide wächst

Suspects involved in stealing King Cheops cartouche to be disclosed after investigation end: Ministry

Link to related thread on GHMB

Pianetablunews (samples too small to be dated)

Six officials punished for theft of archaeological site 5-12-13

Rebecca Bradley's blog

Dr. Ahmed M. Saied

Daily Grail, 4 12 13

Frank Höfer's blog

Interview with Stefan Erdmann, Dr. Dominique Görlitz & Robert Bauval (14 12 14)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2015 06:25PM by Hermione.
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Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower October 07, 2013 09:17PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Hans October 07, 2013 09:47PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Byrd October 08, 2013 08:41AM

A recent precedent

Martin Stower October 08, 2013 10:31AM

Re: A recent precedent

Hermione October 11, 2013 10:29AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Khazar-khum October 08, 2013 03:08PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Hermione October 11, 2013 02:32PM

Enter van Helsing . . .

Martin Stower October 11, 2013 05:01PM

Jan van Helsing = Jan Udo Holey

Martin Stower October 11, 2013 07:07PM

Die gefälschte Kartusche

Martin Stower October 11, 2013 05:59PM

Die Jahrtausendlüge

Martin Stower October 11, 2013 06:09PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower October 11, 2013 04:15PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Khazar-khum October 12, 2013 02:51PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Hermione October 13, 2013 03:12AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Khazar-khum October 13, 2013 11:30AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Rick Baudé October 28, 2013 02:25PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Khazar-khum October 28, 2013 02:38PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Rick Baudé October 28, 2013 02:55PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Hans October 09, 2013 09:50PM

More . . .

Martin Stower October 17, 2013 08:27PM

The Cheops Lie

Martin Stower October 18, 2013 07:57AM

Re: More . . .

Martin Stower October 28, 2013 11:10PM

Re: More . . .

Martin Stower November 02, 2013 10:10PM

Re: More . . .

Khazar-khum November 04, 2013 03:07PM

Spot the difference . . .

Martin Stower October 18, 2013 08:55AM

Re: Spot the difference . . .

Khazar-khum October 18, 2013 01:49PM

Re: Spot the difference . . .

Martin Stower October 18, 2013 03:04PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower October 19, 2013 08:36PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Hermione October 20, 2013 04:42AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower October 20, 2013 06:44AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower October 20, 2013 06:21AM

Ausschnitt: "Das Cheops Projekt" (Untersuchung der Vyse-Kartusche)

Martin Stower October 21, 2013 10:24PM

Re: Ausschnitt: "Das Cheops Projekt" (Untersuchung der Vyse-Kartusche)

Martin Stower October 22, 2013 07:46AM

Dr. Bernd Mehlich

Martin Stower October 23, 2013 04:34PM

Re: Ausschnitt: "Das Cheops Projekt" (Untersuchung der Vyse-Kartusche)

Hermione November 13, 2013 06:37AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt - The Good News

Anthony October 24, 2013 05:49PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt - The Good News

Martin Stower October 27, 2013 09:03AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt - The Good News

Martin Stower October 31, 2013 09:59PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt - The Good News

Hermione November 01, 2013 04:03AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt - The Good News

Khazar-khum November 01, 2013 01:44PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt - The Good News

Martin Stower November 01, 2013 06:23PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

donald r raab October 27, 2013 09:19PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Anthony October 28, 2013 12:41PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Rick Baudé October 28, 2013 02:46PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Khazar-khum October 28, 2013 02:41PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Rick Baudé October 28, 2013 02:58PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower October 28, 2013 05:23PM

Not iron oxide?

Martin Stower November 10, 2013 07:19PM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Hermione November 11, 2013 04:41AM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Martin Stower November 12, 2013 09:46AM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Frank Doernenburg November 12, 2013 01:12PM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Martin Stower November 12, 2013 06:51PM

Not iron oxide?

Jammer November 13, 2013 10:19AM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Hermione November 13, 2013 11:15AM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Hans November 13, 2013 11:28AM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Hermione November 13, 2013 11:34AM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Hermione November 13, 2013 12:05PM

Re: Not iron oxide?

Frank Doernenburg November 14, 2013 03:08PM

Deutscher Experimentalarchäologe erhitzt Gemüter in Ägypten

Martin Stower November 14, 2013 05:17PM

Houdin parle!

Martin Stower November 14, 2013 05:33PM

Re: Deutscher Experimentalarch�ologe erhitzt Gem�ter in �gypten

Frank Doernenburg November 15, 2013 11:45AM

The SCANDAL

Martin Stower November 21, 2013 05:22PM

Re: The SCANDAL

Hermione November 21, 2013 06:43PM

And, in fact ...

Hermione November 22, 2013 08:31AM

More articles (22 11 13) ...

Hermione November 22, 2013 09:02AM

This video is private.

Martin Stower November 22, 2013 06:08PM

More from Selket

Martin Stower November 23, 2013 06:08PM

Re: More from Selket

Hermione November 23, 2013 06:20PM

Re: More from Selket

Martin Stower November 24, 2013 08:27AM

Re: More from Selket

Hermione November 24, 2013 08:55AM

Re: More from Selket

Martin Stower November 24, 2013 11:27AM

Die Freseniuslüge

Martin Stower November 24, 2013 08:59AM

Re: Die Freseniuslüge

Hermione November 24, 2013 09:03AM

Re: Die Freseniuslüge

Irna November 24, 2013 09:38AM

Re: Die Freseniuslüge

Hermione November 24, 2013 09:53AM

Re: Die Freseniuslüge

Martin Stower November 24, 2013 10:12AM

Re: More from Selket

Greg Reeder November 24, 2013 11:29AM

Re: More from Selket

Martin Stower November 24, 2013 11:41AM

Re: More from Selket

Hermione November 24, 2013 11:56AM

Re: More from Selket

Martin Stower November 24, 2013 12:33PM

Re: More from Selket

Khazar-khum November 24, 2013 04:18PM

Re: More from Selket

Khazar-khum November 24, 2013 04:30PM

The petition

Martin Stower December 28, 2013 07:17PM

de.wikipedia.org

Martin Stower November 23, 2013 05:07PM

A messed up report !

Greg Reeder November 25, 2013 05:20PM

Re: A messed up report !

Martin Stower November 27, 2013 03:18PM

Re: A messed up report !

Irna November 27, 2013 03:50PM

Re: A messed up report !

Martin Stower November 27, 2013 04:25PM

Re: A messed up report !

Hermione November 27, 2013 04:45PM

Re: A messed up report !

Martin Stower November 27, 2013 06:05PM

Re: A messed up report !

Hermione December 06, 2013 09:51AM

More press reports (28 11 13)

Hermione November 28, 2013 03:27PM

Re: More press reports (28 11 13)

Martin Stower November 28, 2013 06:56PM

No comment

Martin Stower November 30, 2013 09:03AM

Re: No comment

Greg Reeder November 30, 2013 11:30AM

Another press report (30 11 13)

Hermione November 30, 2013 11:38AM

More press reports (27-11-13; 5-12-13)

Hermione December 07, 2013 04:42AM

Re: More press reports (27-11-13; 5-12-13)

Rebby December 07, 2013 12:47PM

Re: More press reports (27-11-13; 5-12-13)

Hermione December 07, 2013 01:09PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Frank Doernenburg November 30, 2013 07:56PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Hermione December 01, 2013 08:50AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Frank Doernenburg December 04, 2013 08:45PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Hermione December 05, 2013 11:32AM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower December 29, 2013 07:10PM

Ahmed Saied

Martin Stower December 02, 2013 05:22PM

Re: Ahmed Saied

Martin Stower December 03, 2013 05:10PM

dailygrail and others

Martin Stower December 04, 2013 04:01PM

The Third Man

Martin Stower December 06, 2013 04:57PM

Re: The Third Man

Khazar-khum December 07, 2013 05:14PM

Re: The Third Man

Hans December 08, 2013 02:49AM

Re: The Third Man

Khazar-khum December 10, 2013 04:17PM

Bauval accused of involvement?

barry December 12, 2013 08:07AM

Re: Bauval accused of involvement?

Hermione December 12, 2013 08:28AM

Re: Bauval accused of involvement?

Hermione December 12, 2013 08:53AM

Re: Bauval accused of involvement?

Martin Stower December 15, 2013 04:41PM

The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Hermione December 16, 2013 04:21PM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Martin Stower December 16, 2013 06:15PM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Hermione December 19, 2013 10:37AM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Colette December 20, 2013 03:52PM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Martin Stower December 20, 2013 10:41PM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Hermione December 21, 2013 04:34AM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Martin Stower December 21, 2013 03:34PM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Hermione December 21, 2013 05:58PM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Martin Stower December 21, 2013 07:08PM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Hermione December 22, 2013 05:06AM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (6.3.14)

Hermione March 06, 2014 09:05AM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (Dec 2015)

Hermione December 28, 2015 05:26AM

Re: The Bauval Hawass Görlitz saga continues (15 12 13)

Martin Stower December 21, 2013 07:55PM

Antiquities Ministry investigates secret excavations inside Cheops Pyramid (15 12 13)

Hermione December 16, 2013 03:32PM

Re: Antiquities Ministry investigates secret excavations inside Cheops Pyramid (15 12 13)

Martin Stower December 16, 2013 06:42PM

“We do not negotiate a robbery” (23 12 13)

Hermione December 28, 2013 07:08AM

Re: “We do not negotiate a robbery” (23 12 13)

Martin Stower December 28, 2013 07:29PM

German Government accused of inaction (20 Dec 2013)

Hermione December 29, 2013 05:16PM

Re: German Government accused of inaction (20 Dec 2013)

Martin Stower December 29, 2013 06:45PM

Die Cheops-Lüge . . . still online

Martin Stower December 16, 2013 05:48PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Irna December 17, 2013 04:58PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower December 17, 2013 05:26PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Irna December 17, 2013 05:31PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt

Martin Stower December 17, 2013 06:46PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt Photographs of Cartouche

Colette December 18, 2013 02:12PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt Photographs of Cartouche

Hermione December 18, 2013 04:52PM

Re: New Photographs Showing Glyphs Before Damage

Colette December 20, 2013 03:41PM

Re: New Photographs Showing Glyphs Before Damage

Martin Stower December 20, 2013 06:06PM

Re: New Photographs Showing Glyphs Before Damage

Martin Stower December 21, 2013 07:01PM

Das Cheops Projekt: Various Links (live as at 21 12 13)

Hermione December 21, 2013 07:08AM

Bauval Hawass development: Various Links (live as at 21 12 13)

Hermione December 21, 2013 12:51PM

Re: Das Cheops Projekt: Various Links (live as at 21 12 13)

Martin Stower December 23, 2013 07:10PM

Legal measures taken to retrieve stolen samples from Cheops Pyramid (31 12 13)

Hermione January 03, 2014 03:02AM

Article in Thüringer Allgemeine (2nd Jan 14)

Hermione January 03, 2014 03:06AM

Fraud?

Martin Stower December 22, 2013 05:49PM

Re: Fraud?

Hermione December 22, 2013 06:33PM

Re: Fraud?

Martin Stower December 22, 2013 07:38PM

Hawass retracts?

Martin Stower December 24, 2013 05:44AM

More of the same

Martin Stower December 24, 2013 09:38AM

Yet another despatch from Robert Bauval . . .

Martin Stower December 25, 2013 07:08PM

Re: Yet another despatch from Robert Bauval . . .

Martin Stower December 26, 2013 01:17PM

Fans of Zahi Hawass

Martin Stower December 26, 2013 05:06PM

Re: Fans of Zahi Hawass

Martin Stower December 26, 2013 08:30PM

Re: Fans of Zahi Hawass

Martin Stower December 26, 2013 08:42PM

Re: Fans of Zahi Hawass

Hermione January 03, 2014 02:56AM

Mis Enigmas Favoritos: “graffiti is original” shock

Martin Stower December 28, 2013 06:47AM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

Colette December 30, 2013 01:23PM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

Martin Stower December 30, 2013 02:43PM

Re: Mis Enigmas - What is this please

Colette December 30, 2013 05:49PM

Re: Mis Enigmas - What is this please

Martin Stower December 30, 2013 07:09PM

Re: What is this -Breaking Mortar Exposing "Authentic" Glyphs? Altering History -Come Forward Man

Colette January 03, 2014 02:58PM

Re: What is this -Breaking Mortar Exposing "Authentic" Glyphs? Altering History -Come Forward Man

Martin Stower January 03, 2014 06:21PM

Re: Breaking Mortar Exposing East South West Chamber Wall Please Read

Colette January 03, 2014 09:26PM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

clem ciamarra January 03, 2014 09:58PM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

Martin Stower January 04, 2014 02:11PM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

clem ciamarra January 04, 2014 06:38PM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

Martin Stower January 04, 2014 08:34PM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

clem ciamarra January 05, 2014 02:09AM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

Hermione January 05, 2014 04:26AM

Re: Mis Enigmas Bauval's Exclusive and MY Photographic Evidence New Photos Posted

Martin Stower January 05, 2014 06:08AM

Bauval on Red Ice Radio

Martin Stower December 28, 2013 09:08PM

Re: Bauval on Red Ice Radio

Martin Stower December 29, 2013 04:56PM

Re: Bauval on Red Ice Radio

Hermione December 30, 2013 03:38AM

Re: Bauval on Red Ice Radio

Martin Stower December 30, 2013 06:13AM

Dominique Görlitz ‘Pyramid Testimony’ with Robert Bauval

Martin Stower December 29, 2013 07:55PM

Re: ‘Pyramid Testimony’ The Gist - Not Credible

Colette December 30, 2013 11:09PM

Re: ‘Pyramid Testimony’ The Gist - Not Credible

Martin Stower December 31, 2013 11:59AM

Re: Not Credible- ready to pay any compensation

Colette January 01, 2014 01:19AM

Re: Not Credible- ready to pay any compensation

Martin Stower January 01, 2014 07:52AM

**Moderation request - Please continue on other threads**

Hermione January 05, 2014 06:47AM

Why did two German 'hobbyists' deface a cartouche of Khufu inside the Great Pyramid and what does it have to do with Atlantis? (16-1-14)

Hermione January 17, 2014 05:25AM

Re: Why did two German 'hobbyists' deface a cartouche of Khufu inside the Great Pyramid and what does it have to do with Atlantis? (16-1-14)

Greg Reeder January 17, 2014 10:21AM

Re: Why did two German 'hobbyists' deface a cartouche of Khufu inside the Great Pyramid and what does it have to do with Atlantis? (16-1-14)

Martin Stower January 17, 2014 04:35PM

removing evidence cartouche of Khufu inside the Great Pyramid

clem ciamarra January 18, 2014 02:38PM



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