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November 22, 2019, 6:59 am UTC    
October 09, 2019 10:47AM
Chris Tedder Wrote:
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> Pyramid Texts that involve Shu in the king’s
> ascent to the sky – translated by J.P. Allen
> 2005
>
> Glossary (p. 441):
>
> Shu (Sw “empty, void”). The atmosphere that
> keeps the waters of Nu from flooding the earth.
> Together with Tefnut, the first two
> “evolutions” of Atum at the creation,
> worshipped as Dual Lion (rwtj). Father of Geb and
> Nut.
>
> Shu’s Lakes (Sjw Sw). Watery areas of the sky.
>
>
> The title of Unis is from the Sun: Nut, receive
> his title; Shu, raise it up; Shu, raise it up.
> Thoth is scrubbing your feet, Teti. Shu, carry
> Teti [above]; Nut, give your arm to Teti. T 8
>
> Nu has commended Teti to Atum, Wide-arms has
> commended Teti to Shu, that he might have opened
> yonder door of the sky to Teti, now among
> unidentified people, (saying): “Take Teti by his
> arm, take Teti to the sky, that he may not die on
> earth among people.” T 183
>
> This Teti’s sister (Wadjet), the Lady of Pe, is
> the one who cried for him, and the two attendants,
> (Isis and Nephthys), who mourned Osiris have
> mourned him, (saying): “This Teti is off to the
> sky, this Teti is off to the sky, in Shu with the
> Sun.” T 194
>
> You are above the land, but you have the head of
> your father Shu and have control of it, for he has
> desired you and put himself under you and
> everything as well. P 22
>
> Those who belong to the earth will not take the
> arm of this Pepi when [those who] belong to the
> sky have taken his arm, and those who belong to
> the sky are the ones who will take his arm - not
> the earth or those who belong to the earth. [Shu
> is in the earth’s limit under] his [feet], and
> [this] Pepi is on his arms. That is what he has
> done for his sister (Nut) when he parted her from
> [her] brother (Geb), and that is what he has done
> for him, parting this Pepi from his brother down
> here and joining him with his brother up there. P
> 336
>
> The belly of his mother Nut will be made ready [
> ... ] for him with the milk of the two black cows,
> the nurses of the bas of Heliopolis, [whose ... ]
> snatch [ ... ]. [ ..., (saying): “... ] your arm
> to the undersky, for I have taken you.” [Father]
> of this Pepi, Shu, give [your] arm [ ... ]. [ ...
> ] who are there, give your arm to Pepi, that this
> Pepi might sit at the Sun’s shoulder in [ ... ]
> that [ ... ] of the Akhet before the sky. P 345
>
> Pepi is woe to the heart], Shu’s son,
> extensively extended, with scorching [light. Pepi
> is] the fire-wind in the wind’s top, to the
> limits of the sky and earth, to Shu’s limits.
> The lightning bolts’ arms [are (full) of him.
> This Pepi traverses] Shu, this Pepi travels the
> sunlight. P 433
>
> Geb will laugh, Nut will chuckle, before him as
> Pepi goes up to the sky. The sky will shout for
> him, the earth will shake for him. He has
> dispelled the storm-clouds, yelling as Seth, and
> those at the sky’s limbs shall open the sky’s
> doors for me. He will stand on Shu, the stars
> having been shaded for him with the fan for
> (cooling) the god’s water-jars. He will course
> the sky like Zewentju, the third (companion) of
> Sothis of clean places, having become clean in the
> Duat’s lakes. P 450
>
> This is how Pepi has come from Pe, where the bas
> of Pe are: Meryre having been banded with the
> breastband of Horus, Meryre having been clothed in
> the clothing of Thoth, Isis before him, Nephthys
> behind him, Paths-Parter parting a path for him,
> Shu lifting him, the bas of Heliopolis laying down
> a stairway for him to join with the above, and Nut
> giving her arms toward him like that which she did
> for Osiris on the day he moored. P 459
>
> People and gods, (put) your arms under Meryre,
> that you may elevate him and bear him to the sky,
> like the arms of Shu under the sky as he bears it.
> To the sky! - TWICE. To the great place, among the
> gods! P 460
>
> Shu, Shu, lift this Pepi to the sky! Nut, give
> your arms toward him! He will fly up, he will fly
> up. Ululate, ululate, ululate! He will fly up, he
> will fly up. P 502
>
> This Pepi has appeared with the Sun in his
> appearance, the third of them who are with them:
> one behind this Pepi, one before; one placing
> water, one placing sand. This Pepi has leaned on
> your arms, Shu, like the Sun’s leaning on your
> arm. P 504
>
> Shu is lifting this Pepi: Nut, give him your arm!
> Ululate, ululate! He will fly, he will fly. P 506
>
> The sky’s face has been washed, the arc of the
> sky has grown bright. The god has been given birth
> by the sky on the arms of Shu and Tefnut, on the
> arms of him who rises and becomes large. P 509
>
> Horus has put this Pepi [on] his shoulders that he
> might allot this Pepi to Shu, the one with
> sweeping arms under Nut. Sun, give your arm to
> this Pepi! Great god, give your forked staff to
> this Pepi, that he may live forever! P 511
>
> [...] Shu’s ladder, [...will] bear [...]. P 539
>
> This Pepi [ ... ]. [ ... ] when he made the two
> rivers, when Nut became far from Geb. Pepi has
> emerged on the thigh of Shu [ ..., Pepi has
> emerged ... ] P 550
>
> [This Meryre has] gone up [on Shu], this Meryre
> has climbed [on] the wing of Evolver. Nut is the
> one who has received [the arm of this Meryre], Nut
> is the one [who made] a path [for this Meryre].
> Greetings, you two falcons in the prow of that
> [boat] of [the Sun, who sail the Sun to] the east!
> [May you lift] this Meryre and raise this Meryre
> up to the Winding Canal. When you put this Meryre
> [among those] imperishable [gods] and he has made
> landfall among them, he cannot perish, he cannot
> end. P 567
>
> The two elder, great gods at the fore of the Marsh
> of Reeds have put you on Horus’s throne as the
> firstborn of them. They have put Shu at your east
> side, Tefnut at your west side, Nu at your south
> side, and the Undersky at your north side, so that
> they might lead you to the perfect, clean places
> of theirs that they made for the Sun when they put
> him on their thrones. M 336
>
> Shu, take Nemtiemzaf Merenre to the sky! Nut, give
> your arm to Nemtiemzaf Merenre! M 334
>
> Shu, Atum’s son! This here is Osiris Pepi
> Neferkare. He lives and you live: active for you,
> Shu; esteemed for you, Shu; honored for you], Shu;
> in control for you, Shu. May you escort this
> Osiris Pepi Neferkare: with your escort, he will
> not die. N 296
>
> Shu, as you encircle everything within your arms,
> [may you ... ] this Osiris Pepi Neferkare and
> prevent him from being taken away [from you. Shu,
> you are the eldest son] of Atum. He used his penis
> on you so that you might be [ ... ]. [May you
> encircle your arms about this Pepi Neferkare as]
> his ka and defend him from [ ... ]. N 310
>
> When you go forth you shall go forth to Atum’s
> broadhall, go to the Marsh of Reeds, and course
> the great god’s places, for you have been given
> the sky, you have been given the earth, you have
> been given the Marsh of Reeds [by] the two great
> gods who row you: Shu and Tefnut, the two great
> gods in Heliopolis. N 349
>
> [A footpath of metal is beneath you], so to the
> sky [shall you go up] and behind Shu shall you
> climb. Ascender, ascend! [Go up to your house, as
> a star] atop your house, and save your children
> [from] mourning. N 466
>
> Shu, and the (grand)mother of Pepi Neferkare,
> Tefnut, will take Pepi Neferkare to the sky, to
> the sky on the smoke of incense. N 514
>
> You shall go around the Horus Mounds and travel
> around Seth’s mounds. Shu and Tefnut are the
> ones who guide you when you emerge from
> Heliopolis. N 524
>
> This Pepi Neferkare will stand on Shu and Pepi
> Neferkare will shade the stars with the fan for
> (cooling) the god’s water-jars N 542
>
> I will stand on Shu with the stars having been
> shaded for him with the fan for (cooling) the
> god’s water-jars. Nt 271
>
> Chris

Excellent in almost all those cases you've presented substituting "Upwards" for Shu doesn't actually work - an idea suggested by our self nominated expert. Thanks
Subject Author Posted

Still avoiding facts I see (with topic "Atum's Shadow")

Hans October 06, 2019 11:06AM

Atum's Shadow

L Cooper October 06, 2019 11:54AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 06, 2019 07:08PM

The advantage of never documenting anything

Hans October 06, 2019 10:46PM

Re: The advantage of never documenting anything

cladking October 07, 2019 08:09AM

Re: The advantage of never documenting anything

Hans October 07, 2019 08:58AM

Re: The advantage of never documenting anything

cladking October 07, 2019 09:37AM

It time to stop making claims and provide evidence

Hans October 07, 2019 12:05PM

Re: It time to stop making claims and provide evidence

cladking October 07, 2019 02:14PM

Re: It time to stop making claims and provide evidence

Hans October 07, 2019 04:19PM

Re: Atum's Shadow

L Cooper October 07, 2019 08:23AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

Spiros October 07, 2019 08:46AM

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Spiros October 11, 2019 08:39AM

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L Cooper October 12, 2019 08:45AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 12, 2019 09:24AM

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L Cooper October 13, 2019 08:58AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 13, 2019 09:13AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

Spiros October 18, 2019 07:44AM

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Hans October 07, 2019 09:07AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 07, 2019 09:29AM

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L Cooper October 07, 2019 02:28PM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 07, 2019 08:13PM

Challenge taken

Hans October 08, 2019 05:49PM

Re: Challenge taken

cladking October 09, 2019 07:56AM

Your prediction was wrong Cladking

Hans October 09, 2019 10:35AM

Re: Challenge taken

cladking October 10, 2019 05:52PM

Re: Challenge taken

Hans October 10, 2019 07:38PM

Re: Atum's Shadow

Chris Tedder October 09, 2019 04:05AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 09, 2019 08:06AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

Hans October 09, 2019 10:47AM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 09, 2019 09:42PM

Re: Atum's Shadow

Hans October 09, 2019 11:52PM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 09, 2019 09:52PM

Pretending

Hans October 09, 2019 11:25PM

Re: Pretending

cladking October 10, 2019 05:34PM

Substituting Upwards for Shu failure of the ancient language idea

Hans October 10, 2019 05:38PM

Re: Substituting Upwards for Shu failure of the ancient language idea

cladking October 10, 2019 05:56PM

Re: Substituting Upwards for Shu failure of the ancient language idea

Hans October 14, 2019 11:27AM

"Shu" Means "Upward".

cladking October 14, 2019 12:52PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

L Cooper October 14, 2019 01:22PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

Hans October 14, 2019 07:08PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

cladking October 14, 2019 08:05PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

Hans October 14, 2019 11:10PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

cladking October 15, 2019 08:57AM

Still pretending you can translate AE by looking at the English translation..

Hans October 15, 2019 09:14AM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

L Cooper October 15, 2019 09:25AM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

Hans October 15, 2019 12:19PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

cladking October 16, 2019 08:45AM

Why not just show us your research and data? Why are you hiding it?

Hans October 16, 2019 09:57AM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

Byrd October 15, 2019 05:39PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

Hans October 15, 2019 06:47PM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

Hermione October 16, 2019 02:30AM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

cladking October 16, 2019 09:05AM

Re: "Shu" Can Mean Many Things

cladking October 16, 2019 09:03AM

More opinion presented as 'fact'

Hans October 16, 2019 09:55AM

Re: More opinion presented as 'fact'

cladking October 16, 2019 04:40PM

Re: More opinion presented as 'fact'

Hans October 16, 2019 05:21PM

Re: More opinion presented as 'fact'

cladking October 16, 2019 06:01PM

Cladking accepts that his idea was falsified

Hans October 16, 2019 07:08PM

Your idea is falsified

Hans October 14, 2019 07:06PM

Substituting Upwards for Shu failure of the ancient language idea

Hans October 10, 2019 05:36PM

Re: Atum's Shadow

cladking October 10, 2019 06:12PM

Re: Atum's Shadow

Hans October 10, 2019 07:38PM

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Hans October 21, 2019 07:16PM



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