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November 22, 2019, 7:18 am UTC    
October 20, 2019 07:27AM
Pistol Wrote:
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> Something has always bugged me after reading M.
> Lehner's translation of Amenemhet III's
> pyramidion...(TCP p.34) .....
> specifically 'Amenemhet beholds the perfection of
> Re'. Shouldn't it be read from top to bottom? 'Re
> behold(s?) the perfection of Amenemhet'

(Amenemhet's Pyramidion can be seen here - [www.flickr.com] )

There are some problems with what you propose - first is that it is not just Lehner who translates this grouping as he does. The second is perhaps more to the point: it is the order in which the "eye" glyphs and the "neter" glyphs appear. Coming from the bottom up I would think it would read something more like: "Re, the perfect, beholds Amenemhet", or "Beautiful Re sees Amenemhet". It is possible, I suppose, but you'd have to come up with other examples of this where it is written this way horizontally. Do you know of any?

Personally, I think it more likely that what is being misunderstood here is which side of the pyramidion faced which way. I am more inclined to think that the side thought to have faced east, actually faced south. In other words, rotate the thing one turn "righty-tighty". The side thought to have faced north now faces east, and so on. Maspero gives a brief statement as to which way the sides are generally thought to have faced - see ASAE 3, 208 [archive.org] I don't know of where else this information is specified or discussed. Must have been somewhere, just don't know where.

I also don't know if any pyramidion has been found in its original placement on any still-standing object. I'm not aware of any, but this would seem to be the only way to confirm which side was meant to face which way.
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