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November 22, 2019, 6:58 am UTC    
October 24, 2019 07:44AM
Chris Tedder Wrote:
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Hi Chris - Thanks for your reply. Here are my responses to what you've posted -

> The glyph on the lower row of text is G16 ideogram
> for the ‘Two Ladies’ (nbtj) - the vulture
> goddess Nekhbet (nxbt), protector of Upper Egypt
> and the cobra goddess Wadjet (wADt), protective
> deity of Lower Egypt.

Edna Russmann, in ‘Vulture and Cobra at the King’s Brow’ (In “Chief of Seers” p. 271-2) makes the case that the Vulture and Cobra of the Two Ladies (G16) glyph can be seen as “representations of Isis and Nephthys”. I see this line from the pyramidion as saying something like, “The word is brought to give to you the beautiful horizon of Isis and Nephthys so that you can take your inheritance of the united two lands for you to rest upon, which will cause me to be pleased.” There may be a bit of a pun in using the G16 term here given the “united two lands” reference just a few words later in the text, but I think that the image is still one of rebirth in the circumpolar horizon – and if so, then isis and Nephthys are indeed the “Two Ladies” that would have been involved. I suppose one could argue corruption of older material - either knowingly or unknowingly.

> Orion (sAH) is mentioned on the triangular face of
> the pyramidion to the right of the winged sun-disk
> face:
> “The Dual King Nimaatra is higher than the
> heights of Orion…..”
> (at the summer solstice the sun was at its highest
> due south, almost directly overhead. It was much
> higher (about 25° higher) than Orion at its
> highest due south)
> Stephen Quirke in ‘The Cult of Ra’ states that
> the Orion inscription is on the west face, which
> means the winged sun-disk faced north.

Maspero (ASAE 3, [archive.org] ) gives a transcription of each of the four sides, and he has the reference to Orion as being on the North side of the pyramidion. He gives a translation of only the (supposed) East side, but he does then add the following, “The invocation is likewise on the south face to Anubis, on the west face to Ptah-Sokar-Osiris, on the north face to Sahou-Orion”, with this statement providing a confirmation of the labelling he gives to his transcriptions. I therefore suspect that Quirke is mistaken.

So, if as I suggested, the supposed “East” face actually faced south, then the “North” face would have faced East – which makes sense in that the East is where Orion can be seen to rise into the night sky. Orion was the assemblage of stars needed by the King in order to begin his ascent into the sky. There are any number of texts which make this clear. I can see no reason why an invocation to Orion would have been placed facing to the north.

It also makes sense that Osiris (on the supposed West face) would actually have been seen as being in the northern sky – and so have an invocation addressed to him actually be placed on the North face. Again, look at all the texts that place Osiris in clearly circumpolar circumstances.

As to Anubis, at the time of Orion's rising into the night sky, Anubis would indeed have been located in the western part of the circumpolar region - this based on my belief that Anubis was composed of stars taken from Draco and Cepheus.

>It would be
> useful to read translations of the other
> inscriptions on the sides of the pyramidion that
> might help in understanding the correct
> orientation of the pyramidion - do you know of any
> translations?

Unfortunately, I do not. It would be helpful, indeed. As I said, though, at least Maspero provides clear transcriptions of all four sides. One could work from that.

> MK coffins had an eye panel on the outer side of
> the coffin, “the body was laid on its left side,
> facing towards the east, in order to be able to
> look out through the eyes* on the eastern side
> towards the newly rejuvenated sun at sunrise.”

Thanks for reminding me of this - it is an excellent point. My guess is that the accompanying inscriptions allow for a dual interpretation, but I don’t know the specifics...seems some research will be in order for when I have the time.

Judging from Maspero’s statements, it would appear that no one is truly able to say for certain which face faced which way – it all looks as if it is based on the “East” face presumption. An interesting little question, this.
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