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May 30, 2020, 7:11 pm UTC    
January 08, 2020 02:17PM
Hermione Wrote:
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> Cladking: the point about facts and logic is that
> they are, by definition, capable of being
> perceived by all.

YES!!!

Egyptologists and everyone else all share the exact same evidence. Obviously we each interpret and define what is actually evidence differently. For instance Dr Bui who ran the gravimetric testing mistakenly interprets the results as depicting an internal ramp. This is impossible and is nothing more than an optical illusion. It exists because the brain tries to make sense of what we see only in terms of what we believe. Despite the fact that most lines on the scan are parallel to the base so CAN NOT POSSIBLY depict any kind of ramp at all, we see a vague ramp shape in the scan. Even were it possible (IT IS NOT) that this could depict an internal ramp the FACT is the infrared imaging does not support it; ie the infrared imaging proves there are no internal ramps in G1. Egyptology believes that much of what I call "infrastructure" are holy, practice, or religious in nature but we don't disagree on what exists.

Ramps in a two dimensional depiction of a pyramid can not lay out with lines parallel to the base. This is by definition. It is a simple fact derived from math.

It's exactly the same thing with every single point in the post; People simply refuse to ask questions, ask for clarification, present contradicting evidence, or argue the logic. They instead change the subject. The subject here has nothing to do with my belief in linear funiculars and only others are talking about such things, usually very rudely.

I posted THESE facts;

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There were extensive results within hours, minutes, of beginning the testing in October 2015.

The preliminary results showed a stone so hot that Napoleon could have found it just by touching it.

And still they won't admit that they put a boroscope into it.

They won't say what was seen inside (though he let this slip as well).

Most of what we actually know about the results were the results of reading between the words...

Then there are the known facts that all lines in the visible spectrum and the gravimetric imaging are vertical or parallel.

This is not consistent with our beliefs so even the visible lines aren't seen just like the triangles at the base of G1 were not seen. People think they see what is there but we see what we expect.
More than four years ago you said the results would be out in a few months.

But everyone will certainly care when it becomes apparent that all forces and processes that affected the pyramid were parallel to the sides or the base. This is wholly inconsistent with what we believe about how they mustta been built.

I love science and have a great deal of respect for Egyptologists.

I hate that beliefs are so ingrained in us that major changes tend to be demographic or come to us one funeral at a time.

My "research" appears in my every post. It consists of facts and logic. You simply can't see it.

No one challenged any of these simple facts. They don't challenge simple facts like Petrie reported there was water erosion in "canals" leading away from the pyramid. Instead they attack me personally and hold me up to ridicule.

I don't interpret any of the evidence like Egyptologists do. This is not evidence that I am wrong. It is merely evidence that I, Egyptology, or all of us are wrong.

> Given the problems that your posts seem to be
> causing, I would suggest that at this point you go
> back and reconsider whatever evidence it is that
> you're working with.

That all known lines in the pyramid are horizontal or vertical is "obviously" important and that Egyptologists refuses to address this fact says something about the nature of the way THEY interpret the evidence. The fact that the triangles were found at the bases of G1 and Egyptologists had never even noticed it says something about EGYPTOLOGY and the nature of evidence. The nonsense that posts at Hatnub equate to the ability of people to drag stones up ramps says everything about beliefs and evidence and nothing at all about how the pyramid might have been built.

I would very much enjoy discussing ANYTHING at all related to ANYTHING in this post but instead I'll be treated to something different. One individual will fixate on rewriting the last few years of history and the statements of the PERSON IN CHARGE OF NOT RELEASING DATA. There will be no posts whatsoever challenging my points that I haven't addressed to the same individual countless times in the past. The simple fact is there is only one kind of evidence and logic. The only way any ramp could leave a vertical line on a pyramid is if it were a straight ramp and all straight ramps can be omitted on the basis of logic and evidence. No ramp can leave horizontal lines. People are simply imagining that they must have used primitive and barbaric means of building pyramids. They are imagining what the people must have been like to leave the evidence that exists and to build giant tombs. They are assuming the pyramid builders were just like us and their words didn't need to make any sense because they were religious and believed in magic. They are simply ignoring the most important evidence that CLEARLY SHOWS THEY WERE NOT LIKE US and that ALL FORCES AND PROCESSES THAT OPERATED ON ALL OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS WERE IN THE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL PLANES.

The pyramid builders were not at all like us. We see what we believe and we believe most of the physical evidence (like vaterite in the walls) are irrelevant. We believe only what is apparent is evidence and logic is derived not from definitions but from language. Logic can not be expressed in language. It can only be expressed as mathematics and its models.

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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



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