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 January 23, 2021, 7:56 am UTC
 February 22, 2020 02:20PM Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 1,973
Hi Graham,

Graham: “I don't think that Google Earth measurements from the map are accurate enough.”

You raise an interesting issue - how accurate are the coordinates given for any point on Google Maps and Google Earth Pro?

It's problematic determining exactly where, for example, the apex of a pyramid is from Google Earth’s satellite photo. However, Google Maps has the Giza pyramids drawn with the square bases and diagonals, so in theory, it should be easy to pinpoint the apex, but it depends on how accurately the square base of a pyramid is positioned on the map.

Coordinates for G1:

Google Maps 2020: 29.979206° N; 31.134210° E

Glen Dash 2017: 29.97918° N; 31.1342° E

C. Piazzi Smyth 1865: 29.98083° N

Only a 6” difference between Smyth and Dash!

The difference between Glen Dash’s 2017 coordinates for G1 and coordinates obtained from Google Maps is negligible, which means Google Maps is reasonably accurate and is a reliable source for coordinates, at least for G1.

Google Maps coordinates for G3: 29.972510° N; 31.128229° E

Stephen Brabin noticed errors in Petrie’s survey data of the Giza pyramids and corrected them. Also, Glen Dash noticed inconsistencies and needed to take these into account in combining his survey with the survey by Petrie.

I compared Petrie’s G1 to G3’s distance and bearing with the distance and bearing using coordinates obtained from Google Maps:

Petrie G1 - G3 distance: 936.160m; bearing: 37° 51’ 06”

Google Maps G1 - G3 distance: 941.400m; bearing: 37° 44’ 57”

The difference between Petrie and Google Maps for the distance between G1 and G3 is 5.24m and the bearing, 6’ 9”

Next a comparison between Glen Dash’s survey and Google Maps:

Dash G1 - G3: distance: 936.296 m; bearing: 37.771936

Google Maps G1 - G3: distance: 941.4 m; bearing: 37.749166°

The difference between Glen Dash and Google Maps for the distance between G1 and G3 is 5.1m and the bearing, 1’ 22”

An alternative to Google Maps is the ruler tool in Google Earth Pro. Its simple to use, but it's difficult to find the exact centre of the pyramids from a satellite photo so the distance and bearing are only rough estimates:

Distance: 928.43m; bearing: 37.28°

Difference: distance: 7.9m; bearing: 28’ 8.4”

Given more time, it should be possible to get a better estimate using Google Earth Pro.

Concerning the 2000 cubit long, 45° line that connects the centre of the west base side of G3 with the centre of the east base side of G1. According to the Dash survey, it's a 44.95°, 2000 cubits long (1047.6m) line! The bearing is more or less 45° (3’ off), and if intentional, is an incredible achievement by the ancient surveyors.

Another parallel 45°, 2000 cubit line from the centre of G3 to the entrance to Khufu’s cult complex is also significant.

The 45°, 2000 cubits long parallel lines extended northeast align with Iunu, the great religious centre, and extended in the opposite direction 45° south west, align with the setting of Alpha Centauri*, the third brightest star in their sky.

Sighting to the setting of Alfa Centauri would have aided the surveyors in establishing the 45° sightline from Iunu to the Giza plateau.

A 45° sightline from Djedefre’s pyramid to the south-east, connects with the entrance to Khufu’s cult complex. Extended further to the southeastern horizon is where Alpha Centauri rose, that if sighted too, was a useful aid in establishing the 45° alignment that connects father and son’s mortuary complexes. The Djedefre / Khufu 45° south-east alignment mirrors the Iunu / Khufu 45° south-west alignment, with alignments through the entrance to Khufu’s cult complex with the rising and setting of Alpha Centauri.

*Alph Centauri is actually a triple star system with a binary component of two stars that appears as a single bright star to the naked eye. The third star is a much smaller red dwarf (Proxima Centauri) the nearest star to our own.

This triple star system has some uncanny characteristics that correspond to the 3-pyramids at Giza - two large gleaming white pyramids and a third much smaller reddish pyramid (partly covered in red granite).

Alpha Centauri is the closest star system to our own solar system. Alpha Centauri A is the largest of the three stars and is slightly larger than our sun at 1.708 million kilometres in diameter (1.227 times the diameter of our sun). Alpha Centauri B is slightly smaller than our sun at 1.204 million kilometres in diameter (0.865 times the diameter of our sun). The third star, Proxima Centauri, is a much smaller ‘Red Dwarf’ star, about one-seventh the size of our sun.

The Alpha Centauri triple-star system is highly rated as a potential star system for providing life conditions similar to our own solar system.

If we could find the email address of Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise, we could ask him if he knows anything about this, and if he could confirm whether or not aliens from Alph Centauri set out the Giza three based on their own triple star system.

However, C. Piazzi Smyth came up with a better idea - he believed Khufu’s pyramid was built by the ancient Egyptians during the reign of King Khufu, and Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, “furnished the design, and saw to its being realised.” (Smyth 1874: 463).

Smyth identifies Melchizedek as Shem a son of Noah who he believes is mentioned in Herodotus The Histories Book 2: 128 as the shepherd Philitis:

“Indeed, such is the hatred felt by the Egyptians for the very names of Cheops and Chephren that they have no wish to speak them, and even their pyramids they name after the shepherd Philitis, who pastured his flocks in the neighbourhood during the period.” (T. Holland 2013)

With only a 6” difference between Smyth’s and Dash’s location of G1, who could argue with Smyth’s Melchizedek proposal?

Chris

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2020 02:22PM by Chris Tedder.
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