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July 11, 2020, 1:29 am UTC    
July 17, 2008 01:28PM
Hermione Wrote:
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>> Clive Wrote:
> > Some look at hieroglyphs and think in these
> > identical terms...excluding pyramids, circles,
> > squares and pi of course.

> What does that statement have to do with the
> present discussion?

Parallelism...a comparison to your statement.

> > I known that very well, but who is arguing with no
> > evidence?

> I have no idea what you're trying to say here ...

I will ask again...Who is arguing that absence of evidence is evidence of absence?
What evidence is absent?


> My only point was...some circular architecture, or circular
> motifs, seems a good way of recording their
> achievement.

No it was not...!

You originally stated that constructing “a” circle would suffice in the ancients suggesting they knew the pi ratio of a circle.

> However, there isn't any evidence
> that they did grasp the significance of this
> formula, so perhaps it's not surprising...

The surprise is you...
Five days of discussion with this group and you still do not understand...pi is “not” a formula.

> ...that they preferred to stick with what they were used to:
> namely, pyramids.

Derogatory remark. Next you will be telling the world that pyramids were built only to demonstrate the AE's understanding of triangles.

> > "Self evident" is an assumption only and simple to
> > state, but try and prove it...that's another story.

> 1. Pyramids are large constructions (especially
> the GP).

G1, G2 and G3...all three are large.


> 2. Do you have any evidence that 16th and 17th
> century European travellers concluded that it must
> be easy to put such constructions into place?

Do you actually understand what is being discussed here?

Difficulty in tackling and completing a task is not civil engineering, nor does it require mathematics.

> > > how it could be argued that civil engineering
> > > could avoid being dependent upon mathematics.

> > Good logic...we're getting there...

> Yes ... "self-evident", you see ...

No...I was being sarcastic...your statement is redundant.
If you do not understand math then you are "not" a Civil engineer...that simple...period!

> > > Gardner Wilkinson

> No, we're discussing your accusation that the
> mathematical abilities of the AE had been
> belittled for centuries ... remember?

I did?

> > BTW...was Wilkinson an engineer or mathematician?

> Some information on Gardner Wilkinson.

Quote from your reference:
“...Sent by his guardian to Harrow School in 1813, he later went up to Exeter College, Oxford in 1816. Wilkinson ultimately took no degree...”

Hmmm...another Egyptologist without a university degree...

Best.
Clive
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Prof Petrie and the reality of Pi precursor in the Great Pyramid

Dave L July 11, 2008 03:26PM

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Hermione July 12, 2008 03:25AM

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MJ Thomas July 12, 2008 06:24PM

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Jon_B July 13, 2008 03:11AM

Thanks, Jon! (n/t)

Hermione July 13, 2008 03:48PM

the obvious question

Warwick L Nixon July 12, 2008 02:07PM

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Ogygos July 12, 2008 02:30PM

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Hermione July 12, 2008 02:41PM

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Warwick L Nixon July 12, 2008 02:48PM

Psi as in pi

Ogygos July 13, 2008 03:00AM

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Hermione July 14, 2008 02:03PM

Wooops

Clive July 14, 2008 05:39PM

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MJ Thomas July 15, 2008 06:55PM

Finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clive July 15, 2008 08:21PM

Re: Finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - don't speak too soon...

MJ Thomas July 16, 2008 09:19AM

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Ogygos July 16, 2008 01:50PM

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Clive July 17, 2008 12:32AM

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Clive July 17, 2008 11:45AM

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Clive July 16, 2008 11:05PM

Re: Finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - don't speak too soon...

MJ Thomas July 17, 2008 10:31AM

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Clive July 17, 2008 12:19PM

Re: Geometry Diagram of Khufu

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