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August 09, 2008 11:52PM
>>This is based on a belief "God gave the Hebrew & Greek language direct to people and it was therefore perfect and concealed mathematical secrets"

Yet there is firm proof written language is mobile, where words, meanings, and spellings wander over the passage of time.<<
Gematria / wordnumber relations don’t go back infinitely in time. They are restricted to the creation of the alphabet. Thus what we need to do is to find the oldest forms of words used when the alphabet was first in use. Yes spelling change is a problem but then again nobody said that a serious search for word number relations – encodings is easy.

>>You may not like it Ogydos, but this "science" isn't new. There was a segment (still is in fact) that felt all the history of time past and present was encoded mathematically in the Torah, as handed down directly from Yhwh. Since the 1,700s I believe. Other's believe the bible is coded.<<

Why wouldn’t I like it? I agree that the Bible contains encodings and I have worked on decoding some of them, but I don’t agree with bible code theory in general. As I have pointed out in the preface of my book holy logos, arithmology relations cannot be proven mathematically. Also we should filter out the ones that show up by chance from the ones planned, and the ones that show up due to the self – organizing properties of certain languages. Also don’t forget about holy provision.

>>Yet older copies of the Torah & bible differ in word structure and placement? So the secret "moved" over time?<<
When someone refers to holy scripts, then we cannot rule out the possibility of holy provision-guidance in word creation - modification so that certain arithmology relations pop up. Changing a word doesn’t necessarily mean that certain information is lost – since it can be changed in a way that it is not lost or that the data is enriched.
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