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 June 02, 2010 01:44PM Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 5,782
Jammer Wrote:
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> That's wrong. 1 gallon of water lowered by 81 feet
> would generate 664 foot-pound of work.
> The only way to begin to approach your number
> would be to free-fall the water 81 feet, catching
> all it's built up inertia at the end of the drop,
> and translate that force into foot-pound energy.
> Even then I'm not sure it would reach 2,400,
> but I'm too tired of this endless argument to do
> the acceleration formula for you.

I was referring to the entire drop from the []b[]w which was the height of the Upper Eye of Horus (80') all the way down to the end of Manetho's "bowshot" (300') at the foot of the cliff face. Petrie said the canals which transported water from the water collection device (Horus' apron) to the cliff face dropped only slightly so they could maximize their ability to use all the energy from this water.

The NE counterweight on the cliff face probably was actually utilized to lift a few stones atop the structure in the early stages but mostly was used to pull stone up out of the main quarry (on the ramps) right to the pyramid. The other counterweights worked the Sphinx quarry.

Objects have exactly the same potential energy based on their height whether they are falling or fixed in position. As an object falls its potential energy (mass x height) is converted to kinetic energy (velocity x mass) such that at every point Ep = Ek.

Water is very heavy so stores a great deal of potential energy which is useful for work if it can be collected. With great capacity it ascends from earth to heaven and then takes back the power of the above and below. (first corollary to Newton's third law of motion stated quite eloquently) Some of the translations for this are even poetic such as the one that suuggests it "orders the lights above". Yes, indeed, it makes quite a spectacular rainbow.

> It was 110 degrees in high summer everywhere in
> Egypt. Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting there were
> geysers sprouting all over the landscape? There
> are 100 pyramids, possibly 1,000 temples, probably
> more than 1,000 fortifications...

They only dragged extremely large amounts into a pile at the sites of the great pyramids and YES, I am suggesting that each and every great pyramid had a geyser. This is why they built them where they did. This is where the geyser field was.

> Do you seriously propose your geysers did ALL the
> work? Or was it ok to work in 100 degree+ temps
> over "here", but NOT over "there"?
>
> You base core logic remains seriously flawed...
> Imho of course...

Obviously there was an astounding amount of work to do to accomplish these tasks. I'm just suggesting that none of that work was dragging stones up ramps.

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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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Emerald Tablet

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Re: Cenotes and pyramids.

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Byrd May 26, 2010 02:47PM

Re: Cenotes and pyramids.

Byrd May 27, 2010 05:12PM

A little?

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r sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

Jammer June 01, 2010 10:00AM

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Jammer...

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Difficulties of translating religious texts

Hermione June 03, 2010 11:59AM

Re: Difficulties of translating religious texts

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Re: Difficulties of translating religious texts

Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 01:24PM

Brilliant quote...

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Re: Brilliant quote...

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to this I must reluctantly respond

Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 09:47PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki June 13, 2010 12:09PM

imho this is a waste of all our valuable time...

Jammer June 13, 2010 02:42PM

Re: imho this is a waste of all our valuable time...

Jammer June 14, 2010 11:49AM

to this I must reluctantly respond

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Re: to this I must reluctantly respond

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Re: Brilliant quote...

Hermione June 04, 2010 03:32AM

Re: Difficulties of translating religious texts

Hermione June 03, 2010 04:21PM

Re: Difficulties of translating religious texts

Hermione June 03, 2010 04:34PM

Citation problem

Anthony June 03, 2010 12:58PM

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Re: r sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

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Khazar-khum June 02, 2010 03:15PM

Ummm... hello?

Anthony June 02, 2010 10:26AM

Re: Ummm... hello?

Warwick L Nixon June 02, 2010 10:50AM

Oops

Jammer June 02, 2010 11:39AM

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Re: r sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

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your sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

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your sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

Jammer June 02, 2010 11:48AM

The Pyramids and Temples of Geyser

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Pyramids and Turnips...

Jammer June 14, 2010 12:09PM

Re: Pyramids and Turnips...

Jammer June 14, 2010 12:31PM

**Moderation note**

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