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June 04, 2010 12:27AM
It looks like we might have only one thing in common and we might both be wrong about it.

Obviously we must be defining terms differently to have so much disagreement about fundamental concepts.

To me for something to be significant it has to be wholly original, found in the proper context, and contain at least several coherent thoughts about something that can be nailed to a wall. To my knowledge there is noty a single stone or papyrus from the pyramnid buiulding age that really fullfills these criteria. Of course the tombs at Giza often come quite close or even exceed them but this is mostly redundant information; so and so died and did such and such when hew was alive. Even in aggregate there is not a large amount of information except to those interested in the minutia of the ancients. I'm not running it down as a field of study because there is a lot to be learned and can reveal other things but it won't shed light on how the pyramids were built.

Sure we have the various stones but these are anachronistic. They seem authentic enough but these are open to our understanding and these too are not that extensive. We have lots of information we've gleened with various scientific techniques but these are primarily tests run that have nothing to do with understanding the how of pyramid building. It's certainly legitimate to learn all this and try to apply it to understanding the people. Some of it is of interest to me as well but these are not the sorts of tests I'd be running.

If you add all this together and make a few logical deductions then it is hardly inconsequential from your perspective. Then you toss in the PT which you understand metaphorically and a little further logiucal deduction and there really is a lot of fact and knowledge from that era.

My perspective is wholly different. When you toss out almost everything not related to pyramid building or sufficiently suspect as to its originality as to be confounding and you toss out most of the scientific evidence that has no bearing on how the pyramids were built and the metaphoric interpretation of the PT then what's left? It's almost nothing.

We're really both right. You can read for years and not digest it all and I can't read more than a few paragraphs before I realize there's not going to be anything in it for me. I've read allthe original material and have an opinion on all of it. Only the PT are of much interest and they only for their literal meaning which could be irrelevent.

Looking at things from my position is exceedingly frustrating. All the evidence points to one thing and everyone knows I'm wrong. I suppose it's pretty frustrating for those trying to explain why I'm wrong too but that's their problem. I am not closed to fact, evidence, and logic.

A very wise man on the record player suggests; "Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been".

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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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Cenotes and pyramids.

cladking May 25, 2010 11:21AM

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Byrd May 25, 2010 12:34PM

Emerald Tablet

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Re: Cenotes and pyramids.

cladking May 25, 2010 03:31PM

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Hermione May 26, 2010 09:49AM

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cladking May 26, 2010 11:18PM

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cladking May 26, 2010 04:58PM

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Byrd May 27, 2010 05:12PM

Re: Cenotes and pyramids.

cladking May 27, 2010 05:21PM

A little?

Anthony May 28, 2010 05:38AM

Re: A little?

cladking May 28, 2010 04:16PM

r sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

Jammer June 01, 2010 10:00AM

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cladking June 01, 2010 10:37AM

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cladking June 01, 2010 12:11PM

Clad da Vinci???

Warwick L Nixon June 01, 2010 06:02PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 01, 2010 07:11PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

lobo-hotei June 02, 2010 01:08AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 10:58AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

Jammer June 02, 2010 11:26AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

lobo-hotei June 02, 2010 12:30PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

Warwick L Nixon June 02, 2010 12:43PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 01:47PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 01:46PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 01:44PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

lobo-hotei June 02, 2010 12:22PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 01:59PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

lobo-hotei June 03, 2010 12:47AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

Jammer June 02, 2010 10:58AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 11:08AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

Jammer June 02, 2010 11:33AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 02:11PM

Jammer...

Warwick L Nixon June 02, 2010 02:31PM

Re: Jammer...

cladking June 02, 2010 02:40PM

Re: Jammer...

lobo-hotei June 03, 2010 12:50AM

Re: Jammer...

Jammer June 03, 2010 09:18AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

lobo-hotei June 02, 2010 12:46PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 02, 2010 02:27PM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

lobo-hotei June 03, 2010 01:21AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 03, 2010 11:05AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

Jammer June 03, 2010 11:53AM

Re: Clad da Vinci???

cladking June 03, 2010 04:03PM

Difficulties of translating religious texts

Hermione June 03, 2010 11:59AM

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Anthony June 03, 2010 01:08PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 01:24PM

Brilliant quote...

Anthony June 03, 2010 06:38PM

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cladking June 03, 2010 06:46PM

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cladking June 03, 2010 06:49PM

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Sirfiroth June 03, 2010 07:48PM

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cladking June 03, 2010 08:14PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 07:47PM

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Anthony June 03, 2010 08:26PM

Re: Brilliant quote...

cladking June 03, 2010 08:29PM

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cladking June 03, 2010 08:28PM

to this I must reluctantly respond

Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 09:47PM

Re: to this I must reluctantly respond

cladking June 03, 2010 10:41PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 11:09PM

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cladking June 03, 2010 11:32PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 11:58PM

Re: to this I must reluctantly respond

cladking June 04, 2010 12:27AM

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Warwick L Nixon June 04, 2010 12:36AM

Re: to this I must reluctantly respond

Khazar-khum June 12, 2010 07:01PM

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cladking June 12, 2010 09:36PM

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Khazar-khum June 12, 2010 09:57PM

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cladking June 12, 2010 10:13PM

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Khazar-khum June 13, 2010 01:57AM

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cladking June 13, 2010 10:39AM

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cladking June 13, 2010 11:50AM

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Tommi Huhtamaki June 13, 2010 12:09PM

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cladking June 13, 2010 05:02PM

imho this is a waste of all our valuable time...

Jammer June 13, 2010 02:42PM

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cladking June 13, 2010 04:08PM

Re: imho this is a waste of all our valuable time...

Jammer June 14, 2010 11:49AM

to this I must reluctantly respond

Jammer June 13, 2010 07:28AM

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cladking June 13, 2010 11:25AM

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Jammer June 13, 2010 02:33PM

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cladking June 13, 2010 04:31PM

Re: to this I must reluctantly respond

Khazar-khum June 13, 2010 02:36PM

Re: Brilliant quote...

Hermione June 04, 2010 03:32AM

Re: Difficulties of translating religious texts

cladking June 03, 2010 04:12PM

Re: Difficulties of translating religious texts

cladking June 03, 2010 04:10PM

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Hermione June 03, 2010 04:21PM

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cladking June 03, 2010 04:26PM

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Hermione June 03, 2010 04:34PM

Citation problem

Anthony June 03, 2010 12:58PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 03, 2010 01:17PM

Re: Citation problem

cladking June 03, 2010 04:14PM

Re: r sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

Jammer June 01, 2010 12:09PM

Re: r sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

Warwick L Nixon June 01, 2010 06:26PM

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cladking June 01, 2010 07:12PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 01, 2010 07:32PM

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cladking June 01, 2010 12:02PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 01, 2010 12:03PM

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Jammer June 01, 2010 12:18PM

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cladking June 01, 2010 01:12PM

Since you ask...

Anthony June 01, 2010 02:19PM

Re: Since you ask...

cladking June 01, 2010 05:06PM

Re: Since you ask...

Khazar-khum June 01, 2010 06:28PM

Re: Since you ask...

cladking June 01, 2010 07:25PM

Re: Since you ask...

Warwick L Nixon June 01, 2010 07:44PM

Re: Since you ask...

Khazar-khum June 02, 2010 03:15PM

Ummm... hello?

Anthony June 02, 2010 10:26AM

Re: Ummm... hello?

Warwick L Nixon June 02, 2010 10:50AM

Oops

cladking June 02, 2010 11:10AM

Oops

Jammer June 02, 2010 11:39AM

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Warwick L Nixon June 02, 2010 02:57PM

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Hermione June 02, 2010 03:16PM

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cladking June 02, 2010 03:28PM

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your sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

Jammer June 01, 2010 03:13PM

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cladking June 01, 2010 05:29PM

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Jammer June 02, 2010 11:41AM

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cladking June 03, 2010 04:33PM

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cladking June 01, 2010 05:37PM

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cladking June 01, 2010 10:11PM

your sense of logical debate fails you with this oft repeated mantra!

Jammer June 02, 2010 11:48AM

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cladking June 02, 2010 02:48PM

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cladking June 02, 2010 03:02PM

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cladking June 02, 2010 07:07PM

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cladking June 02, 2010 07:17PM

The Pyramids and Temples of Geyser

Anthony June 02, 2010 08:56PM

Re: The Pyramids and Temples of Geyser

cladking June 02, 2010 09:21PM

Re: The Pyramids and Temples of Geyser

Jammer June 03, 2010 09:45AM

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cladking June 03, 2010 04:21PM

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Hermione June 03, 2010 04:23PM

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Warwick L Nixon June 01, 2010 08:34PM

Pyramids and Turnips...

Jammer June 14, 2010 12:09PM

Re: Pyramids and Turnips...

Jammer June 14, 2010 12:31PM

**Moderation note**

Hermione June 14, 2010 12:57PM



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